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Shogun on Machida: “He Comes From The Karate School And I Come From The Muay Thai School”

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Mauricio “Shogun” Rua analyzes the UFC 205-pound champion Lyoto “The Dragon” Machida and explains the stand-up and ground game strategies involved for this October 24th bout.  Shogun tells us that he has trained with Machida before and admits that his ground game is a lot better than many think even though he comes from a Karate school.  The Dragon is an expert in all fields when it comes to mixed martial arts, but according to Shogun there is one important difference between both fighters.  In their stand-up game, Machida uses counter attacks as part of his strategy while Shogun likes to constantly attack inside once he sees the openings.  Either way, expect a chess match at the UFC 104 main event as they both prepare for one of the most difficult matches in their MMA careers.

Snip from Mauricio Shogun:

“He comes from the Karate school and I come from the Muay Thai school, but he’s an athlete who gives a lot of knee blows, plenty Muay Thai blows also, which he improved well. I think the big difference is that he likes to fight in counter punching, and I’m the opposite, I like to go inside…He’s a very complete man, good standing, good on the ground, good in Wrestilng… Actually, people say that if I take the fight to the ground I’ll win, but it isn’t like that. He’s very good on the ground, I’ve trained with him, and sometimes that isn’t the solution. Staying on top in the fight may be an advantage, but I have to see it right so that I don’t make the wrong strategy.”

8 Comments

8 Comments

  1. andykattt

    July 29, 2009 at 10:13 am

    you can tell hes a bit nervous and scared…Im surprised he didnt talk about how pretty Machida looked to.

  2. MikeK

    August 2, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Haha, shogun nervous or scared?!?! Are you joking? Maybe he is just very respectful to his opponents? If you watch any of his interviews before any of his fights, he is ALWAYS very respectful to the opponents he faces. But a fighter such as Shogun being ‘scared’ of any of his opponents is just ridiculous man… I mean absolutely ridiculous!!!

  3. andykattt

    August 3, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Shogun last 2 fights have been with guys with a combined age of 114 yrs old. Shogun being respectful is just a way of him not trying to get Machida mad.

  4. albertr

    August 10, 2009 at 9:09 am

    andykatt…i think you are a complete ignorant about MMA.
    My friend Shogun had 2 recontructive knee surgeries…just in Rehab alone is any where from 6 to 12 months..Shogun is been around for a long time and he has always been a very respectful fighter with a lot of class, unlike yourself.

  5. andykattt

    August 10, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Hello albertr. As a former and current MMA champion in my home land, I admire your bravery to write my name in your comment. I have done MMA for over 40 years and I like to consider myself one of the founding fathers of MMA (much like shoguns last few opponents). Respect has nothing to do with winning, as proven by Brock Lesner, the greatest MMA fighter in the world. Albertr! I challenge you to 12 rounds of MMA at any location of your choice. I bow to you.

  6. jvmane

    August 22, 2009 at 12:46 am

    this dudes bluffin lol

  7. Steve

    September 1, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Shogun wins, Shogun has always respected his opponents. You never see him talking shit about people.
    Shogun wins FTW

  8. TSD_Student

    February 15, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    I am a student of the Korean karate, Tang Soo Do (TSD). Although I do not have a black-belt, I have studied for many years, and have exposure to other martial arts styles.

    My short appraisal of both fighters, Lyoto Machida [Machida (Shotokan) Karate] and Shogun Rua [Muay Thai] is:

    Lyoto Machida exemplifies the abilities confered by traditional maritial arts training, in his case a Shotokan karate base. It is Machida’s Shotokan karate and skill of level of black-belt competition champion that enables him to routinely defeat most sport-based MMA fighters. Machida’s sound karate base also makes him a consistently good fighter.

    Shogun Rua is one of the all-time top LHW MMA fighters in the world. He is a highly skilled Muay Thai fighter which makes him a highly versatile and effective striker. What sets Shogun apart from most MMA fighters is his tactical ability to see as well as create openings, decisively counterattack, and to strike to multiple zones of the body with Muay Thai weapons (feets, elbows, fists, knees). Shogun has excellent training but does not display the consistency of Machida.

    In terms of strategy, Machida [and Shotokan} have a defensive philosopy; Shogun and his Muay Thai base is more offensive in nature. I think this is one reason Shogun did so well against Machida @ UFC 104. However, I believe the better story on strategy is that Machida who is a defensive person, using a defensive stratey AND is holding back, is not a good approach against a an aggressive, world-class fighter, Shogun Rua. I also think Shogun was holding back, presumably both on instruction from the UFC.

    There is a lot of controvesy over the UFC 104; Machida vs. Shogun outcome. My reading is this.

    On a purely technical basis, I give a vote of 30% to Machida as winner. I later read on the internet an analysis BY UFC RULE that does, strictly speaking, support the judges decision for Machida. In support, I think Machida was very accurate in his strikes and was successful in defending against Shogun in the majority of times.

    On an overall basis, I give a vote of 30% for a tie. In my broad view, neither Machida nor Shogun did enough to justify a decisive win. I felt, like most observers, that Shogun took the offensive and did better in overall strikes, yet Machida stymied or stalled out much of what Shogun attempted. Machida, on the other hand was too passive in the face of Shogun’ active offense, and clearly Machida took too many strikes from Shogun to give Machida a winning score on his defense-only stratgy. I also read an analysis on the internet awarding Shogun as the more prolific striker–I concur.

    Not looking strictly at the UFC specific rules, looking at the bout as a full contact fight, I vote 40% for Shogun as winner. The reason is that Shogun pressed the action, and while Machida defended well, Shogun keep Machida on the defensive most of the fight. While it is possible to win a fight on the defensive, certainly Shogun’s ability to continue was never compromised by Machida’s defense. Secondly, the analysis I cited details that Shogun was in fact, successful against Machida in achieving an effective striking score.

    I think a fair outcome to Shogun would have been for the judges to ‘bend’ the UFC strict reading of the rules and call a draw. In my opinion, neither fighter distinquished themselves. And although one could say Machida won technically, Shogun’s overall performance was somewhat better overall versus Machida’s trademark karate style that night.

    I believe an innovative karate fighter like Machida has the potential to defeat a Championship-caliber MMA fighter like Shogun Rua. When Shogun is at his world-class best, however, Machida had better be ramping up to 100% full power in both karate strategy and tactics against the aggression and versatility of Shogun’s Muay Thai.

    In the words of Chuck Liddell MMA trainer, John Hackleman, on Chuck’s inital loss to Randy Couture for the UFC LHW Championship, “… against a MMA God [like Randy Couture], your game had better be AAA.”

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