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Rudy Valentino On Georges St. Pierre: “To Cheat Is Not Honorable”

After watching the UFC 94 bout between Georges St. Pierre and BJ Penn another time, you can clearly see how St. Pierre's cornerman Phil Nurse rubs Vaseline on his shoulders, chest and back.  NSAC (Nevada State Athletic Commission) Executive Director Keith Kizer noticed the Vaseline rubbing between the second and third rounds and immediately stormed into the octagon.  After the fight, Kizer angrily stated that the Vaseline was totally unacceptable and that the commission would review everything thoroughly.

BJ Penn's trainer, Rudy Valentino, says that he had warned the Nevada
State Athletic Commission (NSAC) prior to the fight about the
Vaseline.  According to Valentino, this wasn't the first time it has
happened.  He stated that GSP's corner did the same during the first 'St. Pierre vs. Penn' match-up
in 2006.  Matt Serra's camp claims that it was also done during the second fight
between St. Pierre and Serra at UFC 83.

Snip from Rudy Valentino:

"To cheat to win is not honorable. Why need another edge? Our gameplan
was on the ground, not striking because we knew Georges had good kicks.
We planned to work off the back."

Many fight fans argue that St. Pierre would have won either way because he dominated Penn with his  strength and wrestling skills.  Not only that, but we must remember that it is the cornerman's fault and the blame cannot be blamed on St. Pierre.  Even when they were standing up, St. Pierre took down Penn with ease and wore him down throughout the rounds with his ground and pound. 

Other say that Penn was not able to execute his world class Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, which is extremely important when it comes to mixed martial arts.  A slippery back prevents possible submissions that can be done off of their back including triangle chokes, armbars or simply to deny/minimize  St. Pierre's ground and pound.  After all, Penn did become the first non-Brazilian to win the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil. 

This controversial topic will remain in the MMA history books, but at least we know that Vaseline will probably never be placed on the shoulders, chest or back of any fighter in the UFC.

14 Comments

14 Comments

  1. haley

    February 3, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Gsp is a cheater!! rematch!!

  2. Josh

    February 4, 2009 at 8:18 am

    Cheater?? I know you dont practice MMA or even Jiu Jitsu… what a retard… when you are in the ground not wearing a shirt and sweating the way Bj was your leg isnt just gonna stay on GSPs back on its own, its slippery regardless, you would know that if you practiced, so in BJs own words, in my mind “he’s a little bitch”, GSP is the true champ.

  3. Alli

    February 4, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Yeo i havta agree…GSP won..forsure. BJ penn is a joke. It was a good fight tho! 🙂

  4. Travis

    February 4, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    GSP won,point blank, the fact that they say he cheated is to make themselves feel better, from getting his ass handed to him. Wether or not the fight would have had the same outcome. Penn’s got no reason to be a welterweight,stay in lightweight

  5. Stephine

    February 5, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    There definetly needs to be a rematch, their both great fighters but if there is any inclantion that there was some faul play a rematch would be the only way to settle it. During the fight it was obvious it was near to impossible to get GSP in Bj Penns hold and that’s what he does!! This story makes me think?

  6. capt obvious

    February 6, 2009 at 9:27 am

    in response to the post by josh…any child can tell u that when u add an unfair advantage to something it is concidered cheating. any joe schmo can tell u that u will sweat during a fight, but to intentionally make it impossible to be held is clearly an attempt to hide a weakness. gsp knew he had a fault under normal circumstances and he tried to get away with “fixing it”. i suppose only a fighter though like urself can understand the necessity to resort to an unfair advantage such as vasoline in order to get a hands up on a possibly better fighter than urself, hense the drastic and unnecessary use of the term “retard” on someone u dont even know.

  7. Jake

    February 6, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I feel like GSP is one of the best pound for pound fighters in MMA no questions about it, but what he did was “questionable” at best! As dominate as he is can be on the ground, which he showed in his rematch with Serra, i feel like a Peen vs. GSP 2 is in order, in which case i have no doubt GSP will ultiamtely dominate the fight to leave no questions about who the better fighter is, BJ Peen needs to stay in lightweight where he can win on his back and stop trying to fight GSP!

  8. hawaiian pride

    February 6, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    where did everyone get their fortune telling degrees? no one cares what u feel. what happened happened…gsp cheated by using vasoline. even your mom feels vasoline is cheating…she told me to be a man and use spit

  9. brandon

    February 6, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Gsp probably would have won by shear strenght anyways but remember he had to cheat to garentee a win from a smaller guy

  10. Andrew

    February 7, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    shoulda, woulda, coulda
    in any other definition, the vaseline on any part of the body besides around the eyes is illegal.
    BJPenn is entitled to petition to have the entire match thrown out under Nevada state law. The fact that BJPenn considers and welcomes another shot at the infamous and notorious welterwieght champ in a “rematch” is a decent compromise and should be fair enough for those who favor GSP and those who favor BJPenn.
    If you think your GSP is tough enough and if you think your BJPenn is tough enough, let’s get it on and all mutually support this to happen.
    Dana White went from screaming “Georges is in trouble!!!!!” to Rashad and David L. to saying after the bout that the vaseline wouldn’t affect the fight. Which statement is correct?
    I say rematch and let the better man beat the other, GSP is up for it and so is BJPenn.

  11. Jake

    February 8, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    hawaiian pride must have been watching Mixed Martial Arts for years, i can tell from his “experience”! get on the mat a few times and earn your opinions!

  12. Josh

    February 11, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    GSP is a cheater and a joke he needs to be stripped of his title and Dana needs to send his little robot talking ass back to canada with the rest of the losers

  13. Triangle

    February 15, 2009 at 9:33 am

    GSP did nothing wrong. His corner man is a different story. I re-watched the fight after this controversy came up and only once, ONE TIME… did GSP get into a position where Vaseline would have made a difference. Too bad the COMMISSION WIPED HIS BACK OFF before the round started.

  14. Triangle

    February 15, 2009 at 9:36 am

    BTW… didn’t BJ call St. Pierre a bitch for quitting?

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